Post by Lone4eagle on Aug 14, 2007 11:03:28 GMT -6
White Eagle, that is an interesting pipe? Did you bid on it? I've bought some things recently on Ebay myself. And I have looked at pipes there already.
Found some nice clear Brazilian Quartz crystals. From the same seller for about $54 got 2 lbs. nice large (only one was small) clear crystals...plus a large as your hand sized double pointed clear crystal. Then a couple Citrine crystals, a handful of African Bloodstone, 2 colorful large Agate slices (one light blue, other light Amber). I was able to get the shipping cost combined, the shipping was a few dollars more than the total for the stones. The seller had a lot of bulk California White Sage in lb. and ounces. Only was buying stones at the time. Someone who uses a lot of Sage, may want to check out Ebay.
From a different seller got a Peruvian Turquoise stone, 100% natural without heat treatment or dyes to color it. Is shaped to hold in your hand for laying-on-of-hands healing. Have used the Turquoise in 3 ceremonies now with the large Quartz crystal. Peruvian Turquoise has Cuprite in it, makes dark red spots which may look dark brown. This Peruvian Turquoise is good for curing headaches and things people might take a Tylenal for. Takes away muscle soreness, stress, gives a little sleep sometimes also. I use blessed water in the ceremony, wave feather over water.
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Post by Unega Uwohali on Aug 16, 2007 0:15:48 GMT -6
I don't know if it is interesting or not Cherokee's Ceremony 7 peace Pipes into one star style that I never seen before (I guess that's for present day, not in the history). I found it on eBay search for "Cherokee Indian" keyword.
I'm not going to bid that but if you wanted to bid on that then that's yours, no problem. I'm a member of eBay since Sep-13-03 to present (my old account) and 2nd account since Dec-17-04 to present (my 1st old one is for my private only).
Beware anything with the word "artifact" attached to it on E-bay or anywhere else. That particular pipe, while nicely made I'm sure, Is no "artifact". The old clan pipes had no words upon them, as they were older then the syllabary. They had little reliefs depicting the clans. The traditional 7 clan pipe also was in the likeness of a turtle and was in white stone (though steatite was a much used stone back then). Just me nit picking... lol
Post by Lone4eagle on Oct 15, 2007 18:31:12 GMT -6
Last time I looked at Native things on Ebay, seen more than a few, labeled as artifact. It is the same way in getting stones there. Anything labeled as natural any kind of crystal point, probably has been cut into crystal shape. I've got some good deals at Ebay recently (stones, crystals), but you need to know what to look for.
Check this out! I just went to Ebay for a moment and seen one made by a registered Cherokee and member of the Cherokee Nation. Lives in Georgia, and has Deer antler pipes similar to White Eagle's, the one he posted photos of wiith pipe bag.
I am not sure about antler pipes making you sick. I own several vintage ones and also several elk and deer antler pipes I have made myself and they all smoke rather well, though it is a short smoke because of the small size of the bowl you have to make, even with elk antler. But I will say that they smoke better than my brass and steel pipehawks! Of course stone and clay pipes are perhaps the best, but a nice briar is sweet. Perhaps what made you sick with the antler pipes was a reaction to the nasty habit some makers have of gluing the bowls into the base. It could react in the heat of smoking and give off fumes I would think. That is why my pipes are not glued but fitted tight and then sinew wrapped. I also do this so I can take the bowl off to clean out any clogs and this will happen. If the bowl is glued on you are off to get a new pipe! A nice antler pipe with a 3 foot stem and some decorations is a thing of beauty. My museum holds a number of them that are smokeabke art and bring honor to Grandfather.
May Peace and Happiness Always be Within Your Lodge. Love Always, Dark Moon
Post by Unega Uwohali on Nov 4, 2007 2:48:51 GMT -6
You're right darkmoon, I have been smoked mine sometimes and nothing happen to me. I never glue mine together, I used to wrap the leather to tighten them together. When I'm finish smoke it then I'll unwrap the leather and separate them then put 2 of them in my Peace Pipe carry bag.
Yes, I do think it is the glue that is the problem. Another problem with glueing the bowl in place is that you cannot take the pipe apart to clean it out. Sometimes a bit of tobacco leaf or bit of stem will get stuck in the draft hole and you cannot smoke the pipe til it is cleaned out...which you often can't do without taking the pipe apart. I am glad you enjoy your antler pipe White Eagle, I wish more people would try this very traditional form of pipe. They can be made very expressivily too, I often use half a rack of deer antler for the base of my pipes. I laugh and say you can smoke it and used it as a hat rack at the sametime hee hee! Anyone can make and enjoy one. Try it! I'll be glad to offer help if needed.
May Peace and Happiness Always be Within Your Lodge. Love Always, Dark Moon
Post by laughingeyes on Nov 8, 2007 9:17:58 GMT -6
This is where we changed the get together in March of 2008 at , cause i called the other koa and they only had 3 cabins and only rented 2 of them , the lady was nasty on the phone also so i looked into this one and this one is closer and easier to get to for all that come . Runningwolf and I laughingeyes we are going to make our call soon , .For the new member's we all thought it would be nice to put a face to the name and get to know one another in person from the NAC . this takes place in March of 2008 , 28th thu 30th . we will to know who all can make it .
From the North: Take Highway 7 to 7S; left 1.5 miles to Highway 79B; left on Service Road, then 2 miles to KOA.
From the East: Take Highway 70W to Highway 70B. Exit 4 from Highway 70B; then .75 miles west on Service Road to KOA.
From the West: Take Highway 270/70 East to end of freeway. (Stay on Highway 70E when 270E exits freeway). Exit left to Hot Springs. Turn left on 70B to Exit 4, then .75 miles west on Service Road to KOA.
From the South and West via I-30: Exit 98B. Take Highway 270W 13 miles to Highway 70E to end of freeway. Exit left to Hot Springs. Turn left on 70B to Exit 4, then .75 miles west on Service Road to KOA. Hot Springs National Park KOA 838 McClendon Road Hot Springs, AR 71901
Post by Lone4eagle on Nov 11, 2007 16:39:09 GMT -6
I got the work done on my pipe to make the bowl and stem separate. Cut the stem near the brass ring. Had to drill the hole some, so the brass tube piece in the other end would fit. This turns the stem around making the painted feather on the other side of the rainbow. Now there is room for decorating the pipe with buckskin, beads, feathers.
Since the stem was pre-drilled it would be hard to drill larger and make the brass tube fit tightly, while perfectly even, straight. So, drilled it loose, wrap a thin piece of buckskin around the tube piece, is air tight, even and straight now.
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