Post by awanita62 on Oct 9, 2014 8:44:38 GMT -6
Are you the same rezrazed who posted incendiary comments at the powwow web site?
I made the comments because of my Dad, who was old enough to have learned from my great grandmother, who was born in 1866, of the lack of Indian registration on any of the rolls.
That is no possible way that the government had the knowledge of "god" in knowing who was who and where.
"Standsalone, it's not anything you'll find in print it is the utterances of people with miniscule bloodlines who have no connection to the community that their ancestor was from, and just plain wannabes."
Doesn't that describe some people who are 1/256th Indian? There are a few like that at the Nation with very little connection with Indianness. I mean at least one lives in a big house with little cultural upbringing as an NDN. I think that an Indian with cultural upbringing deserves to have a post at the Nation, not someone with less Indian blood than myself, never mind someone with even less cultural attachment to Cherokee life.
I have done my research, and thus far, I have nothing because I have not gotten access to paperwork that my family supposedly has. There is more to it than I know about. Hopefully, I will get that soon.
1817 Reservation Roll (those requesting a reservation). The 1817 treaty allowed for a six hundred and forty acre life estate per head of household, which upon the death of the grantee, or abandonment of the land by the grantee, reverted to the state;
1817 Emigration Roll (1817-1835 Old Settlers)
1835 Henderson Roll (also called the Trail of Tears roll)
1848 Mullay Roll (resided in North Carolina).
1851 Old Settlers Roll This is the Roll of those still alive in 1851, who were already resident in *Oklahoma* by 1839, when the emigrants arrived.
1851 Siler Roll (Cherokee East of the Mississippi)
1852 Chapman ROLL (Cherokee East of the Mississippi)
1852 Drennen Roll (Emigrant Cherokee in Indian Territory).
1854 Act of Congress Roll
1860 Census (of whites in Cherokee Nation)
1867 Tompkin Roll
1867 Census of Cherokee East of the Mississippi
1867 Kern-Clifton Roll of Cherokee Freedmen, January 16, 1867.
1869 Sweatland Roll
1880 Cherokee Census
1880 Lipe Roll
1883 Cherokee Census
1883 Cherokee Roll .
1883 Hester Roll (Cherokee East of the Mississippi)
1886 Cherokee Census
1890 Cherokee Census
1890 Cherokee Payment Roll
1890 Wallace Roll (of Cherokee Freedmen in Indian Territory)
1893 Cherokee Census
1894 Starrs Roll .
1896 Old Settlers Payment (for Descendants of Old Settlers)
1896 Cherokee Census
1898-1902 (1914) Dawes Roll
So if your claims are true, AGAIN, same as the other member from pws told you, they would be listed. Otherwise all you have are STORIES. So NOW there are 18 rolls your ancestor WOULD have been listed on. If the story goes to he, "ran to the hills", then we will all know you are full of it, because with ALL of these rolls and census, the US Government knew who was who and where they belong, therefore, you were registered. Even if you died, your family was linked to you, there was no lost tribes or unregistered Cherokees. All those coming out of the wood works claiming otherwise are, well, the only way to say it is, they are frauds.
Now that I have my bulletproof vest on, you may fire when ready Grizzly!