Post by sweeetttgrasss on Jul 22, 2006 12:29:30 GMT -6
The Cannupa should be lighted with a coal or ember of fire and not a blaze. This is because the spirit in the fire is in the burning coal or ember. The spirit of ths blaze is going AWAY from the fire. The spirit of God will not be in the smoke for the Cannupa. It makes a difference...
Can you define the Cannupa? This is a new word for me. If you mean a smudge pot then I usually use charcoal, but for a smudge stick (sweetgrass or cedar or sage) sometimes a fire is not available to light it and a lighter is what I use but I wait until the stick has burned off all the flame and is burning nicely on its own. I would appreciate further knowledge on this subject, Thank you AHO
May the Creator bless you today and everyday! SOARS WITH EAGLES
Post by sweeetttgrasss on Jul 27, 2006 23:58:22 GMT -6
Hi Huronwoman! Thank you for your welcome. The Cannupa is the sacred Pipe the Lakota believe is the basis of Lakota spirituality. I didn't mean to disguise " Pipe" by using the word Cannupa, I am just used to using that term. Using charcoal is good, it produces a coal or ember, your are doing it right. Lately I have gotten used to using the large stem of sage as a starter of the Pipe or smudge. It was taught to me by Howard Bad Hand...and of course my loving wife, she always gets credit for anything good and beautiful. She is of the Wolf clan.
Thank you for your clarification, I also did my homework, as a "pipe carrier" it is my responsibility to know these things. I found a great website which I will list below that explains the scared use of the pipe. Being Huron, our traditions are somewhat different but at the same time the same. We pass the pipe 5 times around. the Apache pass the pipe 4 times around and the Cherokee pass it 5 times. Always clockwise. I always give offering to the 4 winds and above and below before smoking and say the prayer the Creator (Wakantanka) gives me at the time, to me this is a very scared ceremony and not to be used lightly. Again Thank You So Much for your wisdom, I need different prospectives from the different nations. Many blessing to you and your wonderful Wolf Clan wife, and any other family members 2 legged and 4 legged as well - AHO
Just to clarify I wanted to remind everyone that the smoking of the pipe is not a ceremony in and of itsefl but is more of a deal sealer, negotions are made and agreements and for the Creators blessings on the agreement the pipe is smoked. Just an FYI
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Osiyo nigadv (hello all). I Just signed into this board so I thought I'd put my two cents in. My name is Steve. My professional name is StoneBear (music and graphic design). Anyway...In my culture, I am Chickamauga Cherokee (I prefer AniYunwiya), We have no "holy" pipe, so to speak. We do use pipes, but it is the use of the Sacred Tobacco that makes it holy or sacred. We light them usually with a stick thats been partially burning in the Sacred Fire. We call the pipe Kanvnawa. We have used coals on occasion but that was due to the fact of no good stick to be found. lol the ways of the AniYunwiya are a lot of times, different than most of the other tribes. I think a lot of times this is due at least in part, to the fact that we originated very far to the south, not even on this continent. Most notably different is we do things in a counter-clockwise manner. Our directional colors are different, our "totems" are different and our use of the pipe is somewhat different. Now that being said, ever since the whole move of the tribes to Oklahoma, many peoples lost their ways and relearned things but in a plains style. So now we have a kind of generic Indian thing going on. But people are slowly finding their way back. Anyway, thanks for the board. Very good
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hello just wanted to welcome you to the site and hope that you get to talk to every one here we get together every third saturday of the month . hope to talk to ya then and again Stonebear welcome , we all are very friendly here
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