I have been researching rocks (long story). I came across a site that had rocks with a natural occuring hole through them. They called them 'dream stones'. Does anyone know where this idea originated? Is it Indian?
"As I was walking up to the edge of the arch, taking many photos, just as I felt ready to leave–the tide was starting to come in, and it was time to find a way to climb out of there–I looked down and there, before me, a gift, was a dreamstone. A dreamstone is a stone that has a natural hole made in it by weathering. Folklore tells of how keeping a dreamstone hear your bedside helps you be safe at night, while wandering in the Dreaming. Your dream will change, and become both more powerful and more archetypal. They will also be protected. It’s like a Gateway itself. This dreamstone had one large hole bored through it, and a smaller hole in the side of the main hole. A double dreamstone. A stone of power. Of gifts and dreams and auguries and sacred places." ~Arthur Durkee
I still haven't found out what origin of 'folklore' it is from (Native American, Celtic, Wican, Greek, German....). Jade is often called the dreamstone in the occult world, but this is not the same as what I am looking for. Several books have been written (fiction) about dreamstone. I even found a semi-porn-ish site that talked about it (again, fiction). I'm still looking for more answers if anyone knows.
I hope to find one to take care of as my own someday.
Post by Lone4eagle on Apr 15, 2007 11:39:20 GMT -6
bearfoot, I find them in my area in plowed fields, construction sites in places that have flint scrapers and other signs of former Native American villages. These stones are much different than ones found in other parts of the US. The holes are natural, but small about 1/8 inch. The Indians here seem to have carved them, maybe for decorations on ceremonial pipes, etc. The type of stone mineral is much different also. I had one around my home here, was looking for it. Not sure where I put it. A crystal point shape, carved on the edge made a nice looking stone and seemed to have notches to be held by fringe or whatever held together. Usually I don't keep them, but if you like will save some found when it gets nice out. There may have been other cultures use them, perhaps Celtic, some New Agers have holey stones also. Black Elk had said something profound once, "if I see my prayer power as my own abilities, the hole will close" so, maybe represents our prayer connection with the Medicine Wheel.
Last Edit: Apr 15, 2007 15:13:27 GMT -6 by Lone4eagle
lone4eagle, I would love to have one, but I think the idea is that you must find one yourself. It is a gift from nature that way. But thank you for your offer. I didn't realize they were that common. I have a large stone, about 8" roundish that I found in my yard with a kinda hole. It does not go all the way through the rock, though. This hole appears to be made naturally. Like water dripped on it for ages. I don't think nature was finished with this one yet, though. I'm going to put a tiny plant in it in my flowerbed. I also have some rocks they call tumble stones here. They roll along the river bed and "grow" like crystals somehow as they tumble. A few of mine are quite large. Can you tell I like rocks?
Last Edit: Apr 15, 2007 19:45:26 GMT -6 by bearfoot
Post by Lone4eagle on Apr 15, 2007 20:43:39 GMT -6
Hello bearfoot! Yes, I like rocks also. Those tumble stones sound neat. My area is limited, plenty of flinty Chert Jaspers, Pink Granites, and something unexpected. I have an assay report from a stone I'd sent to be assayed in California. It turned out to be Glaucophane a bluish-green stone found many places in Japan in association with Jadeite. Some coastal ranges in the western states have the mineral also. I sent some to a place in, I think North Carolina, to be cut into cabs. The colors of the lighter ones, looked more like dry sage which is unpleasant to most white folks. And it is found everywhere in northeast Indiana. Some is dark, others gray. Can be brittle, a few look like Obsidian.
Wow lone4eagle....you are REALLY into rocks! I just collect them. I have one of those pocket field guides for rocks, gems and minerals, but being on the internet now....I usually just Google if I know what I am looking for. I also collect antique bricks! I was sad to have to leave a bunch of them in Florida when I moved here to Tennessee. I would love to have them here in my gardens. Oh well, I can continue collecting. Half the fun is in the finds. I will see if I can locate a tumble rock small enough to ship. Some of mine are too heavy to lift! They are a very dense stone/crystal. Whoever had my gardens here before me must have collected them. I have not yet seen them "in the wild". One of my handymen told me what they were. I will be at the river this spring/summer....it SNOWED here yesterday! I will talk to some of my neighbors and see if they know the best spots to find them.
[Modified to add this question....whoo hoo. I did it right this time!]
lone4eagle, What did you mean when you said that white man does not like the color of the stone?
Last Edit: Apr 16, 2007 0:21:34 GMT -6 by bearfoot
Post by Lone4eagle on Apr 16, 2007 21:06:03 GMT -6
Well, I tried running classified adds in Lapidary Journal Magazine, I think for one year. I sold a bunch to a book writer who was working on a book for Jade-like minerals. Some people asked for a small chip first before buying, nobody liked it. I had a friend at that time I would visit (2 hour drive one way), part Native American and he loved it. My friend put a stone in a shirt pocket. Took the stone and set it for a couple minutes on a bench outdoors. He noticed the mineral kept the warmth and said a most unusual stone. I left him a bunch, gave them away to his friends. Actually, the color seems to fade or disappear with different light conditionds. At times only looks gray. I would like to have a tumble stone sometime, I like anything that might be good for healing.
Today took some photos of a rock in the front flower bed. I was walking in the yard, very windy outside. Right in a row of rocks for a border between yard and flowers, a carved stone. There is a heart shape as used in weeping heart smoking hawks, horns like the Buffalo on top. Have photos in my camera.
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