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Post by Lone4eagle on May 11, 2007 20:53:56 GMT -6
I finally found out where the Indian features come from, in my photos. I was visiting Dad with Mom along, he is preparing to come home from rehab now. As leaving, a woman spoke from the exercise room. She asked, "where do you get the high cheekbones?" Neither Mom nor Dad would answer. So, after out the door, pressed Mom for an answer. She said it was Cherokee, her side of the family. I knew Dad's side of family, had an Indian marriage. Mom confirmed that to me. There is much more Indian on Mom's side, is where the features are from, the Cherokee Nation.
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Post by Unega Uwohali Waya Adkins on May 11, 2007 23:37:15 GMT -6
I knew it! ;D I'm glad you found out you are Cherokee! You can fill out Cherokee Nation application from Oklahoma but it'll take a long time to fill out but in Texas is easier way, don't give it up with Cherokee Nation www.cherokee.org When you're finish to fill out then you can get a Tribal card to prove that you're Cherokee. The card just look like driver's license & information with photo of your face but the card's background have different color. Check out Tribal Registration, click here.My mother is almost finish to fill out my Texas Cherokee Tribal application. Soon my mother and I will get cards by this year. I'm VERY happy my mother is helping me out with that, I thanked her so much! I believe our card will not say how much Cherokee blood do we have, it'll say "Tribal: Cherokee" I think. We will find out any time.
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Post by Annie Fawn on May 12, 2007 10:19:37 GMT -6
It's nice that people are finally admitting that there is Native Blood in the family. For so many decades families hid any trace of Native blood due to racism and politics.
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Post by laughingeyes on May 12, 2007 10:28:02 GMT -6
how did you find this out Annie?
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Post by Lone4eagle on May 12, 2007 22:50:47 GMT -6
Thanks White_Eagle, I'm still not sure how much Cherokee. It is enough to see Cherokee in my features though, which is good for me! Mom wouldn't say anymore as to how and where she got the Indian in her. I have a theory, once read that the eastern Cherokee ladies were some of the finest looking in the south. Some wealthy land owners took them brides of the Cherokees, since they made a good wife. Usually the rich didn't marry Indians, except for the pretty eastern Cherokees. Mom complained to me when growing up as a child about getting her cheekbones from, I think she said it was grandfather. He was a Carroll, from the south, a decendant of the Carrolls who at one time was the wealthiest family living in the US. Some cousins and uncles on my Mom's side spent years searching records to see if some money could be found. I know what happened to the wealth. During the Cival War , it was hidden in places, with hopes to rebuild the south. laughingeyes, the Cherokees who escaped from the Trail Of Tears, tried to hide the fact they were Cherokee. They didn't teach the children to speak the language. It was for fear of people learning about them being Indian. As for info on how the Cherokees hid themselves, Alabama Cherokee Wolf Clan site has the history on this page. Just scroll on down the page, to the History Of The Cherokee Tribe. www.echotacherokeewolfclan.com/id4.html
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Post by Annie Fawn on May 14, 2007 16:43:21 GMT -6
LE, I've always known. My birth certificate like my drivers license says OTHER for race. My father was full blooded Creek and my mother was 1/2 Choctaw, 1/2 Scot. I was raised in both races so at times it was confuseing as a child as to why my school friends didn't go to or dance at Pow wows like we did, or why my great aunts had to have permission to leave the rez to visit us and their didn't. I still walk in both worlds, but like most who don't live on a rez, mainly in the white world.
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Post by Lone4eagle on May 14, 2007 21:17:27 GMT -6
Well, I just tried a search at "Dawes Final Rolls of the Five Civilized Tribes" to see if there be any Carroll last name Cherokees. Guess what?
My first search, just using females only, turned up 24 registered Cherokees with the last name Carroll. My theory must be right. The Carroll family name comes from 2 relatives who signed the Declaration Of Independance, our historic US document. Any Cherokee who can trace their ancestry back to the 2 Carroll signatures on that document, is a relative of mine. Have not tried searching the male names yet, but will. I think there shall be plenty of Cherokee ancestors for me to find!!!!
Oh, by the way, Grandfather's first name, Paul Sr. had a son Paul Jr.
UPDATED INFO I told Mom about searching the records and finding 24 female names registered to the Cherokee Nation who have the Carroll last name. She admittted to me the Carrolls had much land in the State of Virginia. The men she said married the Cherokee women. Mom also told me the Cherokees had land in the state of Tennessee. Then surprised me by also saying her one brother, who is an uncle of mine, the wife he married (my aunt who died of cancer) was full blooded Cherokee from Tennessee. Now I have cousins that are more than half Cherokee. Then Mom told me on Dad's side of family, it is Cherokee.
Mom thinks all the 24 names must be relatives, Carroll is not a common last name.
Question about application to Cherokee Nation...What kind of photo do you submit, can it be digital? My photos were taken recently, all SLR Canon digital, file size 33.6 MB when in TIFF format. That is 8 x 12 inch at 350 ppi. resolution, good enough for a Magazine photo. Maybe a print can be made from one a Walmart. I heard recently you can get prints there, using digital files.
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Post by Lone4eagle on May 22, 2007 19:54:32 GMT -6
lazywolf, was looking at some of the requirements...make it some effort to prove yourself, don't they? My state, Indiana is preparing to enforce a smoking ban in all public places, except bars or nightclubs will be exempt. How about us? I just am decorating a pipe. Are we banned from doing anything with smoke in Public enclosed buildings?
What a shame!!!!
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Post by bearfoot on Nov 11, 2008 22:40:53 GMT -6
My white ancestors did not wish to have it known there was Indian in our blood, either. I would have loved to grow up knowing more about my history, and learning the language of our Native peoples. Hopefully soon I will find some answers. If those records were kept, that is.
Yes, lone4eagle...I think it relates to all enclosed public places for the smoking ban. Unless it was scheduled for a special ceremony. I believe exclusions may apply in those situations.
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Post by Lone4eagle on Nov 15, 2008 18:01:03 GMT -6
Fortunately, many ceremonies can be done in the outdoors, if the weather is nice.
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