Post by Lone4eagle on May 11, 2007 20:53:56 GMT -6
I finally found out where the Indian features come from, in my photos. I was visiting Dad with Mom along, he is preparing to come home from rehab now. As leaving, a woman spoke from the exercise room. She asked, "where do you get the high cheekbones?" Neither Mom nor Dad would answer. So, after out the door, pressed Mom for an answer. She said it was Cherokee, her side of the family. I knew Dad's side of family, had an Indian marriage. Mom confirmed that to me. There is much more Indian on Mom's side, is where the features are from, the Cherokee Nation.
Post by Unega Uwohali on May 11, 2007 23:37:15 GMT -6
I knew it! ;D
I'm glad you found out you are Cherokee!
You can fill out Cherokee Nation application from Oklahoma but it'll take a long time to fill out but in Texas is easier way, don't give it up with Cherokee Nation www.cherokee.org When you're finish to fill out then you can get a Tribal card to prove that you're Cherokee. The card just look like driver's license & information with photo of your face but the card's background have different color.
Post by Lone4eagle on May 12, 2007 22:50:47 GMT -6
Thanks White_Eagle, I'm still not sure how much Cherokee. It is enough to see Cherokee in my features though, which is good for me! Mom wouldn't say anymore as to how and where she got the Indian in her. I have a theory, once read that the eastern Cherokee ladies were some of the finest looking in the south. Some wealthy land owners took them brides of the Cherokees, since they made a good wife. Usually the rich didn't marry Indians, except for the pretty eastern Cherokees. Mom complained to me when growing up as a child about getting her cheekbones from, I think she said it was grandfather. He was a Carroll, from the south, a decendant of the Carrolls who at one time was the wealthiest family living in the US. Some cousins and uncles on my Mom's side spent years searching records to see if some money could be found. I know what happened to the wealth. During the Cival War , it was hidden in places, with hopes to rebuild the south.
laughingeyes, the Cherokees who escaped from the Trail Of Tears, tried to hide the fact they were Cherokee. They didn't teach the children to speak the language. It was for fear of people learning about them being Indian. As for info on how the Cherokees hid themselves, Alabama Cherokee Wolf Clan site has the history on this page. Just scroll on down the page, to the History Of The Cherokee Tribe. www.echotacherokeewolfclan.com/id4.html
Last Edit: May 12, 2007 23:05:12 GMT -6 by Lone4eagle
Post by Annie Fawn on May 14, 2007 16:43:21 GMT -6
LE, I've always known. My birth certificate like my drivers license says OTHER for race. My father was full blooded Creek and my mother was 1/2 Choctaw, 1/2 Scot. I was raised in both races so at times it was confuseing as a child as to why my school friends didn't go to or dance at Pow wows like we did, or why my great aunts had to have permission to leave the rez to visit us and their didn't. I still walk in both worlds, but like most who don't live on a rez, mainly in the white world.
Post by Lone4eagle on May 14, 2007 21:17:27 GMT -6
Well, I just tried a search at "Dawes Final Rolls of the Five Civilized Tribes" to see if there be any Carroll last name Cherokees. Guess what?
My first search, just using females only, turned up 24 registered Cherokees with the last name Carroll. My theory must be right. The Carroll family name comes from 2 relatives who signed the Declaration Of Independance, our historic US document. Any Cherokee who can trace their ancestry back to the 2 Carroll signatures on that document, is a relative of mine. Have not tried searching the male names yet, but will. I think there shall be plenty of Cherokee ancestors for me to find!!!!
Oh, by the way, Grandfather's first name, Paul Sr. had a son Paul Jr.
UPDATED INFO I told Mom about searching the records and finding 24 female names registered to the Cherokee Nation who have the Carroll last name. She admittted to me the Carrolls had much land in the State of Virginia. The men she said married the Cherokee women. Mom also told me the Cherokees had land in the state of Tennessee. Then surprised me by also saying her one brother, who is an uncle of mine, the wife he married (my aunt who died of cancer) was full blooded Cherokee from Tennessee. Now I have cousins that are more than half Cherokee. Then Mom told me on Dad's side of family, it is Cherokee.
Mom thinks all the 24 names must be relatives, Carroll is not a common last name.
Question about application to Cherokee Nation...What kind of photo do you submit, can it be digital? My photos were taken recently, all SLR Canon digital, file size 33.6 MB when in TIFF format. That is 8 x 12 inch at 350 ppi. resolution, good enough for a Magazine photo. Maybe a print can be made from one a Walmart. I heard recently you can get prints there, using digital files.
Last Edit: May 16, 2007 10:16:07 GMT -6 by Lone4eagle
Post by Lone4eagle on May 22, 2007 19:54:32 GMT -6
lazywolf, was looking at some of the requirements...make it some effort to prove yourself, don't they? My state, Indiana is preparing to enforce a smoking ban in all public places, except bars or nightclubs will be exempt. How about us? I just am decorating a pipe. Are we banned from doing anything with smoke in Public enclosed buildings?
My white ancestors did not wish to have it known there was Indian in our blood, either. I would have loved to grow up knowing more about my history, and learning the language of our Native peoples. Hopefully soon I will find some answers. If those records were kept, that is.
Yes, lone4eagle...I think it relates to all enclosed public places for the smoking ban. Unless it was scheduled for a special ceremony. I believe exclusions may apply in those situations.
shadow: Looking for information on my 2nd Great grandmother who married John Hyatt......Her name was Louisiana Hyatt, Cherokee, walked the Trail of Tears when she was three years old.....
Jun 6, 2020 15:29:41 GMT -6
reddog63: I am interested in a vision quest
Jan 5, 2020 12:57:41 GMT -6
Star ocean: Hey everyone!
Apr 2, 2019 4:33:10 GMT -6
noname: Earthlover,When i first started i went through Family Search. Star with what you know and work backwards. I also have storiez from family members. That led me to find my Cherokee great grandmother on my father side from South Carolina.and Blackfoot on my M
Feb 13, 2019 9:01:19 GMT -6
twoblades: Hi Chuck. I am Cherokee and we use the word A'ho as the closing to our prayer. Wado is "western dialect Cherokee" but we use it in the "Eastern dialect" as well because it is recognized.
Apr 16, 2018 21:45:30 GMT -6
twoblades: I came here after looking for info about the colors in the "Medicine Wheel". My Grandmother was Cherokee. My Grandfather was Choctaw. I am Cherokee thru my mother and grandmother.
Apr 16, 2018 21:37:52 GMT -6
cherokeebutterfly: Good Day. I just found this page and would like to know more about my ancestry. It is my belief according to my online genealogy that Cherokee Chief John Bowles is my 6th or 7th generation grandfather. I have found other Bowles members that say the same.
Mar 25, 2018 13:17:19 GMT -6
riverkid05: Hello! My name is "riverkid05" new here, 1/2 Cherokee, my father of course was a full blood and my mother white......made for a strange life LOL...raised on the Colville res and the rest of my time spent in white society it kept life interesting. My fathe
Mar 15, 2018 19:23:11 GMT -6
nathan184: Hello, everyone!
Feb 28, 2018 20:20:03 GMT -6
chuck: Also, I have read that the Cherokee do not use this word A'HO as thank you, but uses the word wado.
Nov 24, 2017 15:52:51 GMT -6
chuck: I have studied the word A'HO and have read in studies that various tribes use this word as greeting, thank you, or ending in prayer. However in further study I read that this is not true and that this word is not real or used. Any thoughts?
Nov 24, 2017 15:50:50 GMT -6
calipharun: never look DNA. that stuf is confusing since the whole world is related. god made us from different sands colors. and adam had all the genetics that were spread trough his children.
Nov 2, 2017 7:48:10 GMT -6
kittyville: For msroberts - Preston H & Susan VClark are my 4-5th great grandparents.Legend was that we are Cherokee.My DNA shows that we are African & White, with very little Native American.See DNA 2010 study of Cherokee in North Carolina reservation. It's true.
Oct 21, 2017 15:09:04 GMT -6
lizardbreath: This does not seem to be a very active list. Is the owner still around?
Sept 13, 2017 11:25:35 GMT -6
lizardbreath: Hello Allemaal, I am LizardBreath. Originally from Alabama, I now reside in Holland. I am 69 years old, I'm of Cherokee descent on my paternal side. I have a 5 year old daughter, and a Dutch wife. I have invaded Europe and I intend to take over the place.
Sept 13, 2017 11:22:10 GMT -6
vhelm1954: Hi there! My name is Vicki, and I live in Meade County, Kentucky. Two years ago, when my husband passed, I decided to move here where the only family I have left, lives.
I have been told all my life about my "Cherokee great-grandmother", but have never
Jun 20, 2017 22:03:35 GMT -6