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Post by 2shadows on Jan 22, 2009 11:33:14 GMT -6
oh wow yeah!! people in the thread!! see what happends when you go off line for a few days.. people show up!...
let me know if I can help any with the fonts etc.
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Post by 2shadows on Jan 27, 2009 14:51:40 GMT -6
a bit early..but ...here is February
Kagali
pronounced "kaw-gah-lee"
using the english keyboard K-g-l and using the cherokee font Kgl
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Post by bearfoot on Jan 28, 2009 2:52:13 GMT -6
Nifty. This font thing still has me baffled. I haven't downloaded the Cherokee font, yet. K-g-l. That is how you would type the word for February? And with the Cherokee font it would come out saying the right thing?
Is the gah sound like a rhyme with ma, pa, or saw?
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Post by 2shadows on Jan 28, 2009 17:13:41 GMT -6
Hey bearfoot!! yes inded..gah sounds like pa with a slight breath at the end. and the Kgl.. in order to see the syllables that make those sounds you need to load the font into your machine..you should have a directory called C:/WINDOWS/fonts or in some similar location..you can use your search in the start menu to find it..that is where you load the file..then they will appear as cherokee symbols..and not just american keyboard entries.
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Post by 2shadows on Jan 28, 2009 17:19:32 GMT -6
just for fun..the word of the day is bearfoot since bear is yo-na Yn pronounced yo-nah (Yn on the english keyboard) and foot is tsu-na #n pronounced chew-nah (#n on the english keyboard) then bearfoot would be yo-na-chew-nah or Yn#n
*so..
osiyo Yona Tsuna! dohejen! (hello bearfoot how are you?"
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Post by bearfoot on Jan 28, 2009 20:00:35 GMT -6
yo-na-chew-nah....that one cracks me up. And fits me perfectly. I selected my name because I never wear shoes. Then I grow up being "Den Mother" to many of the world and people who need me in it. Thank you for your lessons. I will download soon, so I know what this font is, and how it works. Where can I go to hear the Cherokee language spoken? Are there websites that share the audio with stories?
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Post by bearfoot on Jan 29, 2009 5:15:27 GMT -6
Yes. I understand these. What I don't understand is how to say the words correctly.
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Post by 2shadows on Jan 29, 2009 14:07:17 GMT -6
Yona Tsuna.. indeed..as little breeze points out there are two dialects (at one time 3 but one is now extinct) I started with tapes from what I called a classical western (keetowah) speaker..no modern shortcuts etc.. but you can goto www.cherokee.org/SiteRegistration/Login2.aspxand sign up either for the live lessons or just watch them in video stream both are free.. I did the streaming one (course I)..and wanted to do the live one this semester but my classes conflict..I am going to try again the next time it is offered.
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Post by 2shadows on Jan 29, 2009 14:16:53 GMT -6
I think we did little breeze's name once before..but I am not sure.. I think as close as I can get would be "wind-baby"
(subject first in cherokee) wind u-nu-le u0> oo-new-lay (on the keyboard o0> ) baby u-s-di usd oo-sss-dee (on the keyboard usd )
any little or small thing is also usd
so she would be oo-new-lay oo-ss-dee u0> usd
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Post by 2shadows on Feb 14, 2009 12:17:31 GMT -6
here is a word that I think will become more of my everyday vocab..
Rcpkh on the english keyboard: Rcpkh pronounced: "See-da-nay-lun-hee" means FAMILY
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Post by 2shadows on Feb 16, 2009 14:05:42 GMT -6
sticking with the family theme..I thought I would do the cherokee words for brother and sister..
sister is easy enough.. cherokee: uk english keyboard: u k pronounced "oo lunh"
but...brother is more complicated with nuance..
the one I usually use is just cherokee: u4 keyboard u4 pronounced "oo doe"
but...there is also c/tg (c/tg) pronounced: da knee tah gah meaning a blood tie..I think like a blood brother
and dncmC (dncmC) prounced "dee nah dah nunh tlee" that last syllable is like trying to say TREE but with an L instead of a R. This means a true sibling..same mother
then the most casual is how you might speak to someone in a friendly way dgpl (dgpl) pronounced dee ga nay lee
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Post by 2shadows on Feb 17, 2009 15:00:32 GMT -6
2 !!
this is a word that I have just come on..I think it is eastern band dialect. They write it "duyuktv" but that is not so easy to do ... I am trying to find out if there is a Western version right now the closest I can get is: du-yu-g'-Tlv which would sound like "do-you-(k-sound)-(T-sound)-Lun"
I know the eastern use the syllabary but so far have not found it written..so until I can correct this.. the best I can do is j=g< (on the keyboard j=g<)
the definition? BALANCE..TRUTH..JUSTICE..THE RIGHT WAY..THE CHEROKEE WAY
pretty cool..if you know the characters for this..just let me know
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Post by Lone4eagle on Feb 19, 2009 20:48:58 GMT -6
I thought of a way to take care of "printing pages" for those who want to make a language book. White Eagle could start a "printing thread" and all the language lessons copied into it...make them bold or larger size so, can be read easily as printed. Then White Eagle can print them out and make a book...no posting comments in that printing thread though...but you could post here always. Sound like a plan?
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Post by Unega Uwohali Waya Adkins on Feb 19, 2009 23:27:04 GMT -6
That's what I'm tried to explain this to him and our members. I had very hard time to figured out how to explain to our members. Wado lone4eagle for great idea! I'll post a new thread "Printing Language Thread" <-- How about that? If not, LMK, I'll edit my Thread.
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Post by 2shadows on Feb 23, 2009 13:12:23 GMT -6
((I like this one))
Many Cherokee say that we fail in what we attempt because we try to do things alone. ..a-ne-lo-ta-nun ap]tn. They would consider themselves truly blessed if they had a specal person to help them...a guiding, helping person who lives in this world but whose spirit is in the heavens...Ga-lun La-ti gk wT..literally a "Heaven Dweller"... such a person is called "un-da-di-lv-quo-ta-nun" icdk?tm
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Post by Lone4eagle on Feb 24, 2009 19:04:15 GMT -6
That's what I'm tried to explain this to him and our members. I had very hard time to figured out how to explain to our members. Wado lone4eagle for great idea! I'll post a new thread "Printing Language Thread" <-- How about that? If not, LMK, I'll edit my Thread. Great White Eagle! I see you have the "Printing Language" thread up already. This will give evryone a chance at printing a book form of the lessons. ;D
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Post by Unega Uwohali Waya Adkins on Feb 26, 2009 0:16:23 GMT -6
That's what I'm tried to explain this to him and our members. I had very hard time to figured out how to explain to our members. Wado lone4eagle for great idea! I'll post a new thread "Printing Language Thread" <-- How about that? If not, LMK, I'll edit my Thread. Great White Eagle! I see you have the "Printing Language" thread up already. This will give everyone a chance at printing a book form of the lessons. ;D Wado lone4eagle! Yeah, I know you noticed my new sticky & locked thread above and this will give everyone a chance at printing a book form of the lessons. ;D O'siyo 2shadows, Wado for keep posting in this your thread for us!
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Post by 2shadows on Mar 8, 2009 8:26:28 GMT -6
Osiyo! White Eagle
I have been avoiding this..but at long last I am going to try my hand at the rather complicated system of prefixes and suffixes. For example by changing one or two syllables you can ask for something that is "hard", "flexible", "of indeterminate shape", "dead", "alive with the skin on", "long and thin" etc...
SO.....in honor of White Eagle and everyone else here..lets look at a simple one..the word FRIEND.
friend ooh-nah-lee-e unli (keyboard unli) or alternately gee-nay-lee fpl (keyboard fpl)
but "you are my friend" is hfpli he-gee-nay-lee-ee (keyboard hfpli)
while "he is my friend" is afpli ah-gee-nay-lee-ee (keyboard afpli)
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Post by 2shadows on Mar 30, 2009 9:45:39 GMT -6
sorry it has been so long, I have been unwell..but hopefully I can start posting a little more regularly..
asQr is a new word ..pronounced "ah-s-qua-dun" it means..to win or triumph over adversity..something the cherokee have had to do for centuriies!
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Post by 2shadows on Mar 31, 2009 15:02:42 GMT -6
I listen to music..all the time..all day long..native american and classical mostly but also gospel, jazz and even some country..(I love the one about the dad who tells his daughters date that he will be up all night cleaning his gun)
And music effects me greatly..I love the soundtracks to films like Saving Private Ryan or Glory but perhaps no music is more powerful than what the cherokee call di-ka-no-gi-dv (dee-kaw-no-gi-dun) dkZfr(keyboard dKZfr) things like the voice of a child singing to no one but themself..or the sound of a brook laughing at our mistakes..or the call of a dove in the early morning.
dikanogidv...the music of the soul.
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Post by awanita on Jun 26, 2013 13:05:58 GMT -6
There are a couple of things that are not correct. the one that stands out is the Ts sound is more J sound as in Jaybird, Jelly, jump so if we had TSI it would be Jee the TSA could be Jah TSO would be Joe TSU would be Jew TSV would be Juh and so on. Wado Ayv dinadanvtli
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Post by awanita62 on Aug 4, 2014 9:51:12 GMT -6
actually your ts should give a J sound more than the ch sound. Also the eastern dialect is spoke backwards more than the western dialect if you were to want to say little hawk it would be Tawodi usdi which would mean the hawk is little or small, with the western dialect you could say usdi tawodi. The Eastern is also know as the Big Cove. dohiyi Awanita62
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Post by awanita62 on Oct 13, 2014 8:47:36 GMT -6
Just a note, on the TS symbol, it is more of a J sound than ch. Jah lah gee Tsalagi
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Post by yellowhummingbird on Jan 11, 2015 22:12:36 GMT -6
I am very interested in learning, and very excited about the teaching going on here. Thank you
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Post by Lone4eagle on Jan 12, 2015 18:32:14 GMT -6
I am very interested in learning, and very excited about the teaching going on here. Thank you Welcome! For in depth teaching on traditions, you might want to check out check out "Old Ways" board and sub-boards. link-THE OLD WAYS
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